Anglican Communion
''Is "Anglican Church" '''just''' another name for Sprint ringtones :Church of England/Church of England? If not, please don't just create a redirect. Even if it is just another name, it would be useful to explain a little about the phrase "Anglican Church" and its (semantic) relation to "Church of England." Danni Virgin :LMS/LMS''
I'm not quite sure what is most appropriate here.
The original article was essentially about the history of the Church of
England.
I created a new entry called 'Anglicanism' discussing people and
churches that follow the traditions of the Church of England and also
explaining the use of 'Anglican' and 'Episcopalian' to describe such
churches.
Would it be better to rename that page to 'Anglican'?
The Anglican communion includes 60 million members outside the UK and is not the same as the Church of England (with a few million members in England). Nokia ringtones BozMo/BozMoEva Virgin user talk:BozMo//talk 10:04, 21 Jul 2004
I think it is important that Anglicanism as a set of doctrines and practices
has its own entry, as should the Church of England which is the historical
origin of these doctrines.
However, 'Anglican church' in some contexts is part of the formal name of an
institution (the Anglican Church of Australia, the Anglican Church of Canada
etc) and in other contexts is used informally to describe, eg the Church
of England.
This suggests to me that 'Anglican' would be a more useful name,
but I'll think about this a little more.
T-mobile ringtones :Claudine/Claudine
"The ultimate head of any Anglican church is the Primate, head of the church at the national level" - this is wrong. The Archbishop of York is Primate of England but not "head of the church at the national level". Even on the assumption that it was only ever intended to refer to clerical positions, that is reserved for the Archbishop of Canterbury as Primate of All England (these are technical terms). PML.
:As you said, "Primate of England" and "Primate of All England" are technical terms. The Archbishop of Canterbury is still the "Primate of the Church of England", the highest clerical position within the national church. (Although the article should mention that the Queen is the "Supreme Governor of the Church of England"). - Jenna Virgin Efghij/Efghij 04:19, 6 Aug 2003
::What clarification would you suggest, that wouldn't simply add to the confusion? If nobody provides a good one soon, I'll have a stab at it myself. PML.
Let me get this straight, more than half of what is to be said about the Anglican church is a minor news item from the last few weeks? I think this article massively confuses current events with long-term significance. Mp3 ringtones Daniel Quinlan/Daniel Quinlan 01:33, Aug 9, 2003
:I agree. I think we should have a seperate article on Jessica Virgin Anglican views of homosexuality, where we could incorperate this as well as information on the Blessing of Same-Sex Unions. - Music ringtones Efghij/Efghij 02:54, 9 Aug 2003
:Yes, good call. Nadia Virgin Evercat/Evercat 14:00, 9 Aug 2003
I have deleted the word Protestant. Please see discussions elsewhere. Although the Roman Catholic church sometimes describes the Church of England as Protestant it does not declare itself to be Protestant on its official website or anywhere. It does contain many Protestants but that is not the same thing. There are official websites declaring it to be Catholic and ones explaining why it is not Protestant (the latter are a bit scarse) but since on religions we abide by the principle that organisations can say what they are, I have deleted the word Protestant. I have not included the word Catholic since I do not want to start repeated reruns of the arguments on the Catholicism page. Historically it is a Catholic Schism from the time of Elizabeth the First. Cingular Ringtones BozMo/BozMolayouts now user talk:BozMo//talk 10:02, 21 Jul 2004
I also disagree with "The Archbishop of Canterbury is regarded as a symbolic leadership figure among many Anglican denominations, but does not hold formal authority and cannot be accurately compared to other religious leaders such as the pope." I think the position of the ABC wrt the AC (outside the CoE) is exactly the same as the pope wrt non Roman Catholic churches in communion with Rome? Albeit there is no belief in the infallibility ex cathedra and stuffconnection thought BozMo/BozMoto demographic user talk:BozMo//talk 10:06, 21 Jul 2004
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I'm not quite sure what is most appropriate here.
The original article was essentially about the history of the Church of
England.
I created a new entry called 'Anglicanism' discussing people and
churches that follow the traditions of the Church of England and also
explaining the use of 'Anglican' and 'Episcopalian' to describe such
churches.
Would it be better to rename that page to 'Anglican'?
The Anglican communion includes 60 million members outside the UK and is not the same as the Church of England (with a few million members in England). Nokia ringtones BozMo/BozMoEva Virgin user talk:BozMo//talk 10:04, 21 Jul 2004
I think it is important that Anglicanism as a set of doctrines and practices
has its own entry, as should the Church of England which is the historical
origin of these doctrines.
However, 'Anglican church' in some contexts is part of the formal name of an
institution (the Anglican Church of Australia, the Anglican Church of Canada
etc) and in other contexts is used informally to describe, eg the Church
of England.
This suggests to me that 'Anglican' would be a more useful name,
but I'll think about this a little more.
T-mobile ringtones :Claudine/Claudine
"The ultimate head of any Anglican church is the Primate, head of the church at the national level" - this is wrong. The Archbishop of York is Primate of England but not "head of the church at the national level". Even on the assumption that it was only ever intended to refer to clerical positions, that is reserved for the Archbishop of Canterbury as Primate of All England (these are technical terms). PML.
:As you said, "Primate of England" and "Primate of All England" are technical terms. The Archbishop of Canterbury is still the "Primate of the Church of England", the highest clerical position within the national church. (Although the article should mention that the Queen is the "Supreme Governor of the Church of England"). - Jenna Virgin Efghij/Efghij 04:19, 6 Aug 2003
::What clarification would you suggest, that wouldn't simply add to the confusion? If nobody provides a good one soon, I'll have a stab at it myself. PML.
Let me get this straight, more than half of what is to be said about the Anglican church is a minor news item from the last few weeks? I think this article massively confuses current events with long-term significance. Mp3 ringtones Daniel Quinlan/Daniel Quinlan 01:33, Aug 9, 2003
:I agree. I think we should have a seperate article on Jessica Virgin Anglican views of homosexuality, where we could incorperate this as well as information on the Blessing of Same-Sex Unions. - Music ringtones Efghij/Efghij 02:54, 9 Aug 2003
:Yes, good call. Nadia Virgin Evercat/Evercat 14:00, 9 Aug 2003
I have deleted the word Protestant. Please see discussions elsewhere. Although the Roman Catholic church sometimes describes the Church of England as Protestant it does not declare itself to be Protestant on its official website or anywhere. It does contain many Protestants but that is not the same thing. There are official websites declaring it to be Catholic and ones explaining why it is not Protestant (the latter are a bit scarse) but since on religions we abide by the principle that organisations can say what they are, I have deleted the word Protestant. I have not included the word Catholic since I do not want to start repeated reruns of the arguments on the Catholicism page. Historically it is a Catholic Schism from the time of Elizabeth the First. Cingular Ringtones BozMo/BozMolayouts now user talk:BozMo//talk 10:02, 21 Jul 2004
I also disagree with "The Archbishop of Canterbury is regarded as a symbolic leadership figure among many Anglican denominations, but does not hold formal authority and cannot be accurately compared to other religious leaders such as the pope." I think the position of the ABC wrt the AC (outside the CoE) is exactly the same as the pope wrt non Roman Catholic churches in communion with Rome? Albeit there is no belief in the infallibility ex cathedra and stuffconnection thought BozMo/BozMoto demographic user talk:BozMo//talk 10:06, 21 Jul 2004
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An native sharon LinkBot/automated Wikipedia link suggester has some possible wiki link suggestions for the advisers back Anglican_Communion article, and they have been placed on embrace social User:LinkBot/suggestions/Anglican_Communion/this page for your convenience.''Tip:'' Some people find it helpful if these suggestions are shown on this talk page, rather than on another page. To do this, just add to this page. — dei since User:LinkBot/LinkBot 10:38, 17 Dec 2004
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